David Tomberlin, owner of Well Dressed Foods here in Tupper Lake , asked me if I'd share my pizza dough recipe after reading the post about my travails with the pizza peel.
Started out round. I call it my Texas pie!
Started out round. I call it my Texas pie!
I said, "Sure, I can give you a bunch."
Now, full disclosure #1.
I don't have any original, I made 'em myself recipes.
Why reinvent the wheel, if there are shitloads of great recipes out there.
Typically, what I do when making dough is go online and find something I've never done.
Full disclosure #2. I like it easy.
No 3 day cold ferments or Double Zero flour that hasn't found it's way into the great wilderness of the Adirondacks yet.
If I'm making pizza and making my own dough, that means I want it today. I'm simply way too ADD to think about it 2 or 3 days ahead of time.
That said, I thought I'd pick the brain of my good friend DM Cavanaugh.
He came up to Tupper in February and brought his homemade dough, along with sauce and toppings.
DM is the good looking guy in the middle, I'm the fat guy to his left.
Aya to my left, Adam and Diana to the right of DM.
He came up to Tupper in February and brought his homemade dough, along with sauce and toppings.
DM is the good looking guy in the middle, I'm the fat guy to his left.
Aya to my left, Adam and Diana to the right of DM.
He's a mistro of dough. He makes incredible pies.
So, when I posed the question, here was his response, (in a loving father to son type of manner).
Oh man Tup, pizza dough recipes are like aholes, everybodies got one. I'm a minimalist, flour, water, salt and yeast. Sounds simple doesn't it? But why do so many people have so many problems with it. What kind of flour, what temperature water, what kind of salt, how much salt. Yeast, some people don't know what you mean if you tell them instant yeast or active dry yeast. And we haven't even discussed hydration percentage (the amount of water needed for the amount of flour), mixing methods, mixing times, to autolyze or not to autolyze, to bulk ferment before forming dough balls or to form dough balls immediately after mixing. To bulk ferment at all? How about fermentation? Room temp, how long? Cold ferment, how long? Why? Why not? If I told you how I do it, someone else will comment and tell you that my way is all wrong. And then I'll comment and tell them they're full of $#iT. So, I'll pass on this one and tell the next person that they're full of $#iT!!! Unless it's @dhorst. :-)
OK- flour, water, salt and yeast!
Here's one of DM's pies he submitted to Slice, for My Pie Monday, where folks send in pics and descriptions of pizza they make at home.
It's unbelievable how home pizza has evolved.
There's some serious craft here.
And here's his description:
"New house, new oven, slightly new dough. Had to ditch all my sourdough starters to accommodate a move, so this is a 60% hydrated dough, Hecker's UAP flour, 1/4 tsp IDY, 3/4 tsp sea salt, 400 gr dough ball. Baked 8 minutes at 525° on stone, extra cheese (standard whole milk dry mozz), sauce made from Cento Italian (not San Marzano) tomatoes, basil fresh from my garden.
Well, not as simple as flour, salt water and yeast, but, I totally get it and DM's message to me.
The message being, you've got to find out what works for you.
The evolution of pizza at the home level has taken off.
You can make pizza at home that's as good or better than what you'd get from 90% of the pizzarias out there.
So, back to the original query about dough recipes.
Here's a few I've tried and work very well.
We'll start with one I found last night.
Simple.
- 1 (.25 ounce) package active dry yeast
- 1 cup warm water (110 degrees F/45 degrees C)
- 2 cups bread flour
- 2 tablespoons olive oil
- 1 teaspoon salt
- 2 teaspoons white sugar
Add the yeast to the warm water, let it sit until it bubbles, then combine with the other ingredients. I do all the mixing in the Kitchen Aid. Too lazy to do by hand.
You've got to develop an eye as to whether or not the dough is to dry or moist. Sometimes you add a little flour, sometimes a little water.
Trial and error.
Let it double in size in a bowl with a light coating of olive oil (maybe an hour, maybe less, maybe more), punch it down, spread it out, top and cook.
I cook my pies in a pre-heated gas oven at 550 degrees on a stone.
Here is another solid recipe from Kenji at Serious Eats for NY Style Pizza!
Ingredients
yield: 4 to 6 (makes 3 pies), active time 30 minutes, total time 24 hours- 22 1/2 ounces (about 4 1/2 cups) bread flour, plus more for dusting
- 1 1/2 tablespoons sugar
- .35 ounces kosher salt (about 3 teaspoons)
- 2 teaspoons instant yeast
- 3 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
- 15 ounces lukewarm water
- 1 batch New York Style Pizza Sauce
- 1 pound grated full-fat dry mozzarella cheese (about 4 cups), placed in freezer for at least 15 minutes
Procedures
- 1Combine flour, sugar, salt, and yeast in bowl of food processor. Pulse 3 to 4 times until incorporated. Add olive oil and water. Run food processor until mixture forms ball that rides around the bowl above the blade, about 15 seconds. Continue processing 15 seconds longer.
- 2Transfer dough ball to lightly floured surface and knead once or twice by hand until smooth ball is formed. It should pass the windowpane test. Divide dough into three even parts and place each in a covered quart-sized deli container or in a zipper-lock freezer bag. Place in refrigerator and allow to rise at least one day, and up to 5.
- 3At least two hours before baking, remove dough from refrigerator and shape into balls by gathering dough towards bottom and pinching shut. Flour well and place each one in a separate medium mixing bowl. Cover tightly with plastic wrap and allow to rise at warm room temperature until roughly doubled in volume.
- 41 hour before baking, adjust oven rack with pizza stone to middle position and preheat oven to 500°F. Turn single dough ball out onto lightly flour surface. Gently press out dough into rough 8-inch circle, leaving outer 1-inch higher than the rest. Gently stretch dough by draping over knuckles into a 12 to 14-inch circle about 1/4-inch thick. Transfer to pizza peel.
- 5Spread approximately 2/3 cup of sauce evenly over surface of crust, leaving 1/2 to 1-inch border along edge. Evenly spread 1/3 of cheese over sauce. Slide pizza onto baking stone and bake until cheese is melted with some browned spots and crust is golden brown and puffed, 12 to 15 minutes total. Transfer to cutting board, slice, and serve immediately. Repeat with remaining two dough balls, remaining sauce, and remaining cheese.
(Pic by Kenji)
A bit more complex, but works great. And his pizza sauce is great too!
And while we're on it, here's another Kenji recipe that will make a Sicilian Type pie.
If you're into into bread at all, you've heard of Jim Lahey and his No-Knead bread.
Kenji came up with a No-Knead Pizza Dough, that I've done many times and have been very happy with.
Note: To make without a stand mixer, combine flour, salt, yeast, sugar, and 2 tablespoons olive oil in a large bowl along with the cooled riced potato along with 11.25 ounces water and stir together vigorously with a wooden spoon until homogeneous, about 3 minutes. Cover bowl with plastic wrap and allow to rest at room temperature for at least 8 hours and up to 15. Continue with step 3 as directed.
Special equipment: rimmed 12 by 18-inch baking sheet
Ingredients
yield: 4 to 6, active time 1 hour, total time 3 hours with stand mixer, at least 9 hours without- For the Dough
- 1 medium russet potato, about 7 ounces
- 15 ounces (3 cups) all-purpose flour
- 1/2 ounce (about 2 teaspoons) kosher salt
- 1/4 ounce (about 1 1/2 teaspoons) rapid-rise yeast
- 1/2 ounce (about 3 teaspoons) sugar
- 1/2 cup extra-virgin olive oil
- For the Sauce
- 1/4 cup extra-virgin olive oil
- 4 medium garlic cloves, smashed
- 1 (28-ounce) can whole peeled tomatoes packed in tomato juice, drained (such as Muir Glen)
- 2 teaspoons dried oregano
- 1/2 teaspoon red pepper flakes
- 2 teaspoons sugar
- 4 sprigs basil, leaves and stems reserved separately
- Kosher salt
- 1/2 pound (about 2 cups) shredded mozzarella cheese
Procedures
- 1For the Dough: Place the potato in a medium saucepan and cover with cold water. Bring to a boil over high heat and cook until cake tester inserted into center meets no resistance, about 15 minutes. Pass through potato ricer into small bowl and allow to cool at room temperature for ten minutes. You should have 6 ounces of riced potato.
- 2Meanwhile, combine flour, salt, yeast, sugar, and 2 tablespoons olive oil in bowl of stand mixer (see note for mixer-free version). Add 11.25 ounces (about 1 1/3 cup) water to mixer and mix on medium speed until it comes together and no dry flour remains. Add cooled riced potato, increase speed to medium-high and mix until the dough is stretchy and smooth, about 6 minutes. The dough should stick to the bottom of the bowl but pull away from the sides.
- 3Pour remaining olive oil into rimmed baking sheet and spread over entire inner surface with hands. Transfer dough to baking sheet and rub top surface with oil until thoroughly coated. Cover with baking sheet with plastic wrap and allow to rise at room temperature until dough has spread out to touch nearly each rim of baking sheet, about 2 hours.
- 4For the Sauce: While dough is rising, heat olive oil and garlic cloves in 8-inch skillet over medium heat until lightly bubbling. Reduce heat to low and cook until garlic is light brown and tender, about 10 minutes, flipping garlic cloves once during cooking. Transfer garlic cloves to bowl of food processor or blender (without the oil). Add drained tomatoes. Process or blend until roughly pureed, and set aside.
- 5Transfer garlic-scented olive oil to large saucepan and heat over medium-high heat until shimmering. Add oregano and red pepper flakes and cook, stirring constantly until fragrant, about 1 minute. Add tomato mixture, sugar, and basil stems. Bring to a simmer, reduce heat to low, and cook, stirring occasionally, until slightly reduced, about 30 minutes. Season to taste with salt.
- 6To Finish the Pizza: 30 minutes before baking, adjust oven rack to middle position and preheat oven to 550°F. Carefully remove plastic wrap from pizza dough. Using oiled hands and being as gentle as possible to maintain air bubbles, push and stretch the dough into the corners of the pan by pressing out from the center and lifting each corner and stretching it beyond the edge of the pan. It should pull back until the pan is just filled with dough.
- 7Spread approximately 2/3 cup of sauce over top surface of pizza with back of spoon, leaving 1-inch border all the way around the edge. Sprinkle with half of Parmesan, focusing on edges of crust. Bake for 5 minutes, remove from oven, and spread mozzarella evenly over surface. Dot more tomato sauce in irregular spots on surface (you may have extra sauce). Top with basil leaves and remaining Parmesan.
- 8Return to oven and bake until crust is well browned and cheese is melted and lightly browned in spots, 10 to 15 minutes longer. Allow to cool at room temperature for 5 minutes. Transfer to a large cutting board (pizza may stick to pan at some point—use a spatula to carefully pry it off), cut into 8 or 12 rectangular slices, and serve.
Good stuff!
So, back to the beginning and David's question. Will I share my recipe?
Well yes, but I've Hijacked all of them from people who know a hell of a lot more than I do, but I'm learning!
So, back to the beginning and David's question. Will I share my recipe?
Well yes, but I've Hijacked all of them from people who know a hell of a lot more than I do, but I'm learning!
It's what's available, how much time you have, and how much do you really care.
Making pizza dough is as easy or complicated as you want!
Just Google Pizza Dough recipes, you'll have your hands full.
Oh, if all else fails, you can do what I did today.
Went to Price Chopper with the better half and Lo and Behold, they had frozen pizza dough on sale, buy 1, get 2 free.
3 doughs for $1.99.
Great for a weeknight, and cooked on the stone at 550 tastes pretty damn good.
Saves a lot of time and there's no flour all over the kitchen!
You know what I did!
Making pizza dough is as easy or complicated as you want!
Just Google Pizza Dough recipes, you'll have your hands full.
Oh, if all else fails, you can do what I did today.
Went to Price Chopper with the better half and Lo and Behold, they had frozen pizza dough on sale, buy 1, get 2 free.
3 doughs for $1.99.
Great for a weeknight, and cooked on the stone at 550 tastes pretty damn good.
Saves a lot of time and there's no flour all over the kitchen!
You know what I did!
SpecialThanks to Kenji and DM Cav for sharing.
P.S. I didn't mention my Dill Dough once!
P.S. I didn't mention my Dill Dough once!
Fine work TC, pizza dough becomes a very personal thing once you get the bug. If you haven't caught the bug yet,those doughs from PC will be just fine. Norma had a long thread on pizzamaking.com about her "mystery dough", which turned out to be a frozen dough (Pepe's) which is available in many Walmart's. I've made some pizzas with it, you'll see one tomorrow on SLICE'S "MY PIE MONDAY" and other then being just a little bland (probably could have used a bit more salt) it makes a very edible pie. Now, about the oil and sugar!!!
ReplyDeleteI do mine in the bread maker.
ReplyDelete1 1/2 c water
1 1/2 T olive oil
3 3/4 C bread flour
1 1/2 T sugar
1 1/2 t salt
2 t yeast
Takes 1 hour 50 minutes in mine.....there is preheating of the ingredients and a rise cycle.
Heh. Nice post. @dmc pretty much summed up my thoughts on dough. Sometimes I use a dough very similar to the one you've posted, sometimes like Kenji's and I often play around with my sourdough starter and different flours. It's all good if it's good pizza!
ReplyDeleteSee that Tup, you and "anonymous" both are using sugar and oil after I told you that you don't need sugar and oil. That's why pizza dough "recipes" have to be a personal journey. Enjoy the trip!
ReplyDeleteWho is anonymous! Ha!
ReplyDeleteIt's Anne Marie...how do I make it say my name? So not technology able....
ReplyDeleteAnne Marie
Yeah! I got it!
ReplyDeleteThe recipe came with my breadmaker. Sometimes I do add a little dough enhancer. Stuff I got at King Arthur Flour. Makes it stretch better and not shrink back. I know...lots of additional stuff, but it works for me.
@Ann Marie, if you're using bread flour in a bread machine and letting it knead through the full cycle, you're overworking your dough and that makes it tough and hard to stretch. That's why you need the additional stuff you're using. You can remedy that in two ways, either remove the dough from the machine early, or switch to all purpose flour. Pizza dough does not need to be as well kneaded as bread dough. Bread dough you want to rise, pizza dough you want to spread.
ReplyDeleteDough Enhancer-That like Viagra for Pizza?
ReplyDeleteActually, most of the dough enhancers are the opposite of Viagra, they make the dough relaxed and limp. You don't want that, do you?
ReplyDeleteUhhhh, good point Dave!
ReplyDeleteYou guys are killin' me! We stuff floppy boots with cardboard and paper to make them stand at attention, and joke about how cardboard is the little blue pill in shoes at Herb's.
ReplyDeleteSounds a lot like baking Tupper my good man... but I would definitely be up for samples of the finished product!
ReplyDeleteOh man, you're gonna get lost in all this dough! Your buddy DM has the key - and I bet'cha, if you ask him he doesn't even use a recipe. The answer you should be giving to anyone who asks is, 'I put the flour, salt, and yeast, in a bowl and add water until it feels right.'
ReplyDeleteThat way you don't have to write anything down, and they know you're a pro. You do want to be a pro, right?
@drfugawe, you hit the nail on the head. Way too many people over think everything. Hands and eyes are still the best tools.
DeleteHey Doc, between you and DM I can't go astray!
DeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDelete